Rose was an important person to The Doctor, especially for 9, but it's not her photo the Doctor keeps on his desk. A Member of Townsquare Entertainment News, Everybody who watched the last episode of Dr Who. It also allowed us to see the true love from River. Tennant really please the fans when he finally said everything that fans have assumed the Doctor was thinking during Rose’s second goodbye, in … (TV: The Unquiet Dead, Dalek, Army of Ghosts) Her father died when he was hit by a car while she was still a baby. It's enough that he did love them. River is undeniable he cant get rid of her like song stuck in his head. I hate those fics where the Doctor would just be head over heels for Rose when River would be RIGHT THERE. Please, the difference between David's Doctor and Matt's Doctor stretches as far and wide as the inside of the TARDIS itself. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. I think that the doctor cares for River, but some part him still loves Rose and his other companions wether they are jus friends are not but he still thinks of them as his family besides the TARDIS, Well...the 9th and 10th doctor loves rose but matt forgot her soooo i uess its hem both, River is his wife!!!! I don't think people really seem to look at those details and realise how much they mean. When the Doctor regenerates, he becomes a different person. Measuring the intensity of love seems like a futile effort. I know they were "married" but It felt like he was just flirting with her more then real love. The Doctor trusted River, in the end, and likely relied on her more. River said and I smiled as the Doctor let me go and began to scan the plug as Amy hugged me tightly. That's such a great power but she managed to keep alive with it. With the Eleventh Doctor now passed into Whovian memory, it would seem that the Era of River Song has ended as well. They are math. Oh I have seen them all it was more of a question to see what other people think. They may be the same person, but they are very different. River. He has just moved on and has feelings for River but Rose will always be the one. We've always been told how much The Doctor loves River, e.g. It also allowed us to see the true love from River. Rose Tyler or River Song, what do you guys think? Or at least she felt much stronger. He says that it's not just your body that changes, it's the personality, and how they act, I agree, I mean he uses up a generation of his life just to heal River's wrist. Doctor wears bow tie and River generally night dress. Perraonality traits may have changed. Well Rivers not an awful selfish chav so the answer seems obvious. © 2006-2021 Fanpop, Inc., all rights reserved. Press J to jump to the feed. Also that's an action big enough to cause the Doctor to die/ regenerate. I think that in the 50th anniversary episode we will be able to tell whom the doctor cares for more. Caring for River Song means that he has nothing to lose. Ten's "love" for River wasn't developed for her and expired from her. I whole-heartedly agree. He was furious that it was going to happen, and elated when he thought it hadn't. I love museums." I honestly never even saw a romance between rose and 10, just Rose having a huge highschool girl crush on him, and the doctor just kind of going along with it. That being said, I would say that Rose had the love and lust from a new relationship and River had the strong wife vibe. © 2006-2021 Fanpop, Inc., All Rights Reserved. The Doctor is in a paralal universe with rose but he is human and will die there with her. Well. There is no chance he has to take. He knows River Song is going to die after the first time she met him. And another point, they both like to wear remarkable. midwinter-sun:. I am inclined to say Rose. His fellow traveller of Time who really gets it. But I'm sure now. I think the respective Doctors love them about equally, and in different ways. And i think love for rose sort of died with 10... 10 loved Rose. River can take care of herself I guess. No. Btw TARDIS-Granger, would yiu like me to actually write a list of how 10 and 11 are different???????? After he regenerated, I wouldn't say he really "loved" river until the end of Series 6. Ok good. I was'nt sure before last episode if he is love or like as the other companions. I´d also say that 10 was in love with Rose. Doctor loved Rose without a doubt. <3, Because, River said she married the Doctor, but then says to Amy that the universe then doesn't exist. Rose is awesome!!!!!!! Both are special to him in a different way but equally important to his growth. And guys don't 4get the doctor is 1 peson he just changes his face...duhhhh. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. So if you think you know you have no clue. River Song is his wife! In Manhatten and then Trenzalore, you can see him love her back. Doctor is a time lord and he is a genius. he said just as there was an explosion outside. Jan 8, 2021 - Explore Jess's board "11th Doctor Art" on Pinterest. He agreed to save time, but as she matured he loved her back. She is doctor and later professor. She absorbed the time vortex, she looked in the tardis' heart. But he had to let her go - she is happy with the Metacrisis Doctor now. No doubt the reason SM did put the line in SitL is because so many people did not work it out when watching GitFP and complained how the Doctor left Rose (and Mickey) to die on a spaceship in the 51st Century. I'll ship the Doctor/River well over a million times over before I'd ship the Doctor/Rose. By the end of Season 6, we witness the Wedding of River Song to the Doctor. So, according to me, the Doctor's one true love is Melody Pond. For a start, she died the very first time they met, which would usually be a barrier to any relationship developing. Especially on Darillium - where they spent 24 years together - there's definitley love between them. I have a theory that each Doctor is an aspect of his personality. But all the memories and all the people he's met( what makes him who he is) is with him till he dies. But Rose chose living spending her life with the man who grabbed her hand and simply said "Run", A Member of Townsquare Entertainment News. I been watching some episodes of the tenth Doctor, and it has me thinking who does the Doctor love more. Doctor couldn't direct her. He even keeps a photo of her on his desk. Rose is not just a child who needs help. So thanks for the fic. A future Rose who had travelled back to that same day with the Doctor was present for these events, and interacted with her infant self, unleashing the Reapers. I know Ten liked to tell Rose how special and different she was, but Ten was very emotional in general. She is like a game. I agree with iamawhovian, and all who are pro-Rose. Evey time she appears after TWORS in her timeline you can see how she loves him. But when he realised River's wrist, he was very worried about her.He forgot Amy and Rory just a while. Rose was born in London (TV: The Doctor Dances) to Jackie (TV: Rose) and Pete Tyler (TV: Father's Day) around 1986. He has feelings for River but ultimetly loves Rose and his wife from when he still lived in Gallifrey.End of discussion. 9-Rose was just friends but 10-Rose... First, Rose was just 19, and Doctor was 900! I would say Clara even though he married River Song. End of discussion. gooday and good night.And Romana beats both of em she is smarter prettier and braver.also a Time Lord.Watch the classic series.Just sayin, River Song, its adorable how akward he act when they kiss! (TV: Fat… It's not about allowing, it's about the laws of Time. And the doctor always is there. I'd rather neither i mean i hate River, their "love"seems sorta one-way with that flirt. They were both of his hearts... Something to say? Rose is a human, will die in a short. The relationship between 10th and Rose was a very human love relationship. I think it wasn't just 'flirting'. She later shot and killed him, which would also be considered a dealbreaker for most couples, but in this case led to marriage! Someone who loves him for who he is, not what he represents, flaws and all. She gave her regeneration energy to save him. And I think River has a hand about that. She was the first face he saw in two regenerations, and the last he said goodbye to. He knows she and him will be together and that she will die. River ultimately was family. And after watching "Angels Take Manhattan" I think he really cares about River... Well, you have to remember, The Doctor told River his real name. Eleven introduced us to the love of River from the Doctor. We will see again River, maybe in different face. 1 The Doctor: Leaving Jark Harkness Stranded By using Fanpop, you agree to our use of cookies. I see Rose as the human the The Doctor "stole" to heal his heart after the ravages of the Time War. You are right about River, but that cinematic run and that childish giggle hearing Rose was trying to come back from parallel world - yeah, I'm not sure you can. He can just hear randomly without even hearing that song. I think he loved River deeply as his wife. In my view, the Doctor just sees River as an object of flirting rather than someone to love and cherish. ok this is how it was and is... Rose was one of a kind and the doctor will always love her. But Rose was just a child for him. Sign in with one of these options: Cookies help us bring you Fanpop. She tried to change the fixed point just for HIM. Professor Berenice 'surprise' Summerfield. There is no surprise... it's somewhat like dictated fate or a prophecy of sorts. But with Rose I really did. When They Met For The First And Last Time. Of course they are differen! Sort of. Interesting example to give, when he didn't allow her to break her wrist. Then Rose and then River Song.But there are a lot of other women who come before River … you guys they are THE SAME PERSON he just looks different, He JUST looks different? Someone who understands him in a way that nobody else around ever could, until Gallifrey returns. I think you could argue that The Doctor wasn't in love with Rose (in a romantic way). Guys please look at the big picture. ITS SIMPLE!!! I think asking who he loves "more" is impossible to measure. I pity her and the character arcs she was given. River because he was actually clearly in love with her. They reminded me of teenagers saying "I love you" to each other after they've been dating for a month. So Rose is like the rebound holiday romance with whom you share something unique, passionate and wonderful - but fleeting - with, River is the person you marry. AND HAVE DIFFERENT INTERESTS, IS THAT SO HARD TO GET OVER? Thankyou!!!! This is obviously a symbolic reveal that the Doctor did have feelings for Cameca after all, and wasn’t ready to let her go. Ten loved Rose, but much more in a crush kind of way. He will never love River as much as he loved Rose. I'm listening tp an audio aventure, legit bbc, where the 7th Doctor is flying around saving stuff because his next body might be to weak to make the right choices. She is also well trained warrior as the doctor. What makes doctor , The doctor is same. You may think that that would change the Rose-lover’s minds right? We have not seen that love yet, but it is ALLEGEDLY much stronger than his love for Rose. He married River Song. The Doctor loves The Doctor the most. If the Doctor married River in a time that never actually happened, what's to say he ever married her. Doctor loves Rose. I also think it really just depends on who is writing/running the show at the time. River was clearly in love with him. THEY'RE DIFFERENT ACTORS! thank you someone who is makeing sense.I mean come on do you watch the show!!? But River had her own adventures and invite doctor to come with her. I never honestly felt the love between River and the Doctor. No matter what Doctor it is he will ALWAYS love Rose. Yeah Ten loves Rose 11 no longer but remembers her fondly 11 loves River and Ten is wondering who the heck River is. Even if he tells her his name, he knows she won't abuse it because she will die when she is still in love with him. What about Let's Kill Hitler? Honestly, Moffatt has the need to make every companion the most important person in the entire galaxy all the time. 11 likes River, but Rose is the best. It's sad be because she only gets 3 appearances after that, but Mels (for whatever reason) loved the Doctor and wnted to marry him. In fact in the series 4 finale, his Duplicate confesses that love to … He knows she and him will be together and that she will die. So OBVIOUSLY they get married again, Yeah, in Silence in the library, River whispers his name into his ear and that is when he beleives that she is somebody important, But I think you miss the IMPORTANT Little picture while you're dealing with the bigger picture. Riversong, no question. I like to think so, but his personality is slightly different. But if we consider the Doctor/Rose and Doctor/River relationship from a time-neutral perspective, I would have to say that the Doctor loves River more. Wrong. River and Doctor appeared to be forced so in my eyes Doctor loves Rose more. I love River AND I love Rose. While 10 was way more foregiving. And she is professor (higher than the doctor) and she knows a lot about the doctors past and future, and this make doctor proud of her and respect her. See more ideas about doctor who, doctor, dr who. He cares her so much. Cookies help us deliver our Services. Two different loves, Rose and the doctors love was more entertaining, imo. There is no chance he has to take. And the other things make them two sides of a coin: they are both psychopat, genius, time lord, hot and flirty (to each other). I love 11xRiver a lot more than 10xRose, but I can appreciate that they were in love too. The 10th Doctor was much more human and mature, the 11th is much more alien and childlike. 9 somehow filled with bitterness and angry. I think he loves River "more" in the sense that it's a longer lasting love spanning his life. Keep in mind that Nine, Ten, and Eleven are very different. I don't think the Doctor was in love with Rose. Ten has such a deep and profound love for Rose. He loves Rose. And Doctor.. "Well done sweetie; you did amazingly." I feel as if he loved Rose more. Whereas Eleven and Twelve, having had several centuries to move on from losing Rose, loves River as someone much more on his level, as a fellow time traveller, as an intellectual equal, as someone with just as much agency as he does. It's no longer dormant." Silence in the Library...She died saving him. DOCTOR Who fans believe Billie Piper’s character Rose Tyler could be returning to the show. And we saw at the last episode Doctor kiss her (never did before with any of women) and called her his wife. But you should remember this. We get that she was in love with him, but for her to suggest he go through with killing all of life just because she wanted a boyfriend was the worst thing she could have said. But Rose let the whole time and space in her mind. He did love Rose. Caring for River Song means that he has nothing to lose. He knows River Song is going to die after the first time she met him. Aziraphale gets into the wrong car and the unsuspecting doctor is mistaken by the angel for Crowley (who overslept and forgot to pick him up). Doctor loves Rose. Only 10 loved Rose, maybe, he never did say it after al. I only pity her. Eleven introduced us to the love of River from the Doctor. She didn't show her wrist because she wanted him to be happy about "Okay, she escaped there. I really want the doctor to still love rose- i want it to be true, I think, in his heart-no matter which incarnation-the Doctor will always love Rose Tyler. Because everything started with them and it was just so beautiful. I didn’t like what Moffat gave us: A psychopathic, flat, feisty, flirty, angry, … I asked as he continued to pull me by the arm; Amy lagging behind slightly, looking just as bored at me. I agree. He is cursed for that reason. I think 9 and Rose were much better. She is the woman doctor who try to find out "who is the doctor song". For Rose you knew he loved her with his heart and soul and their love grew. He waste some of his regeneration energy to fix her wrist. It never felt like love more like simple flirting. They will always be connected. It made me cry. So of course, he's going to one-up the Doctors "romantic" relationship. And also say last thing about Clara, isn't she like a machine, cold, nothing special of her? Just watch 'The Wedding of River Song'. <3 <3. And it is true, no one will love him more than her. There is no surprise... it's somewhat like dictated fate or a prophecy of sorts. Nothing about the Doctor’s relationship with River Song was normal. With Doctor and River? And like Moffat said, "He loves his River.". 10 LOVES Rose and knows it, but I reckon 11 doesn't realize he still LOVES Rose because River is confusing him. I agree. That's love. It's reaching out, getting a good look at us. They were perfect!!!! According to doctor (may be he liked him very much) Rose is a child who needs help. Well, the Ninth and Tenth Doctors were head over heels for Rose, and Eleven loves River. But due to different actors playing them, its okay for him to have new interests, such as River or fish fingers in custard. But they are two very different sorts of love. He's biologically, technically, whatever you want, the same being, but his personality, looks, and reactions are all different. Back in the old days, the Doctor was devastated when Jo Grant left in The Green Death, and the 10th Doctor's relationship with Rose became a romantic tragedy by the end. River, is a time lord too. But he never, for example, would have let Rose break her own wrist to escape a Weeping Angel. Remember Angels Take Manhattan. Not yet registered? She was his weakness. I never thought the feelings were mutual between Rose and Ten. 10 AND 11 HAVE DIFFERENT PERSONALITIES!!! Create a new Fanpop account! "Doctor why did you come if you were only going to make fun of everything in here?" "That was a projection of the Angel. So I can save Amy and Rory". Rose bid farewell to fans in 2010 when she became trapped in a parallel universe. Awww. He has his memories and that's it. And sincerely the Doctor has so many affairs he also loved the TARDIS when he had no one else his only true companion was the TARDIS. Because he gets older and gets a new body and new metabolism. And while it should be bittersweet, it is also honestly something of a relief. But it's not about River; it's about the girl who will always hold a special place in the Doctor's heart, the one he'd drop everything to save, the … Same software different case. For Nine, Rose was an emotional beacon, someone who helped him come back from a very dark place and become someone he wasn't ashamed to be anymore, and he owed her a debt for that. Two different loves, Rose and the doctors love was more entertaining, imo. River Song is a fictional character created by Steven Moffat and played by Alex Kingston in the British science-fiction series Doctor Who.River Song was introduced to the series as an experienced future companion of series protagonist the Doctor, an alien Time Lord who travels through time in his TARDIS.Because River Song is a time traveller herself, her adventures with the Doctor … I don’t hate River Song anymore. Bit right, mostly wrong. "Wrong. He loved Rose more than anyone and even though he has accepted that she is happy somewhere else and they're never going to be together he still loves her more. That's exactly what happened with the Doctor. When you see the thirteenth episode it will become clear. But I think out Rose was more loved my the Doctor than River was. When game over, you can restart from the beginning. River though, he cared for on a much deeper level. She is genius as doctor. Rose loved him, certainly, but I'm pretty sure it was unrequited for most of series 1 and 2. her picture on his desk, but I thought Nine with Rose was a more organic romance. Imo I don't think it's fair to compare the Rose-10th relationship to the River-11th relationship, because for all intents and purposes 10th and 11th are two different people. It's not at all surprising the Doctor loved Rose; River is a much more questionable choice. The Doctor explained that both universes could collapse if he did so, but this only prompted a nonchalant “So?” from Rose. Because you know, her intension was pure, that was an act of true care, and love. The meta-crisis Doctor and Rose decide to take a little family Holiday in Rose's home dimension, riding in on a time machine that looks remarkably like a 1926 Bentley. ( Unless he loses his memory, but it happened once and yet he still remembered Rose, altough he didnt know who she is) ANYWAY. tl;dr: He did love Rose, now he loves River. 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